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I have made a few tunes in FL Studio, and it's all great and such, just that when I export them in mp3 format they're kind of quiet compared to when working in FL. Have you experienced this? Can you help?

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if u have turned down the master volume to avoid distortion that's the cause..
If so you should re-level all parts of your tune so it isnt distorted anymore with master volume on the regular setting. Or use a compressor, but mostly it makes it louder, but messes up with the sounds of yer tune..


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The problem is that when I relevel the master volume again it GETS distorted even if I didn't do anything to avoid distortion before.. You should hear my techno tunes... [sic]

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The problem is that when I relevel the master volume again it GETS distorted even if I didn't do anything to avoid distortion before..

Then u should re-arrange the levels of your samples, so i isnt distorted anymore when the master volume is at normal

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just export it, open it in a wave editor such as audacity, normalize it, and there you go. If normalizing doesn't have much effect, you have too much peaks and will need to do the mixing of your tune over, or use a compressor/limiter. Another thing you could try is export it to .wav first. If that result is ok with you, then compress it using a tool like razorlame.

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just export it, open it in a wave editor such as audacity, normalize it, and there you go. If normalizing doesn't have much effect, you have too much peaks and will need to do the mixing of your tune over, or use a compressor/limiter. Another thing you could try is export it to .wav first. If that result is ok with you, then compress it using a tool like razorlame.


i dont think normalizing a whole tune is a good idea. for one it will take ages and two it stops at the first point that will get clipped.. its ok if you have a little high freq clipping.. heaps of tunes do

what you need is a scope like s(M)exoscope put it on your master channel and adjust your volume till you see it just start clipping on the peaks

if you add compression then you can trun it up louder b4 it will clip. but its not gona make that much difference. The scope is the best tool you can have when mastering and compressing! i reckon Smile

and never touch that main volume thing up the top in fruity... just use your mixer. make sure your reset it.. right click and reset

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Why is normalizing not a good idea? It just amplifies the whole thing in such way the peak levels come to the maximum you can have in a sound file. If the peak levels are too high, it won't improve much, but it won't do any damage either. If you have little experience with mastering it is worth a try I think.

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Why is normalizing not a good idea? It just amplifies the whole thing in such way the peak levels come to the maximum you can have in a sound file. If the peak levels are too high, it won't improve much, but it won't do any damage either. If you have little experience with mastering it is worth a try I think.


it just seems like a wast of time.. your better to just have your master levels right in the first place.. if you use a scope this is easy

if you export youre tunes with heaps of head room then you loose some of the dynamic range. Sure you can scale it back out but you never really get all the detail back... just an approximation

think of it like a image.. once you scale down you lose information Wink

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I don't see what is wrong with normalizing either. And it takes long you say? I guess you're using the wrong software then.

Export -> Normalize -> Limit

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ok.. so it doesnt take to long, i havent done it in an export b4

still you should be exporting at atleast 100% anyways

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I have made a few tunes in FL Studio, and it's all great and such, just that when I export them in mp3 format they're kind of quiet compared to when working in FL. Have you experienced this? Can you help?


use a soft clipper on the master channel, and instead of turning your master down, turneach of your individual tracks in your mixer down... standard part of your mixdown procedure...

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i have had this problem, and i feel bad i couldn't be here to hlep earlier.

when you export sounds into fruity it turns them down to 80% of there orignal volume, crank taht knob to full to the left of the track in STep Sequencer and you won't get clipping there, beyond that, yea hit the normalize button on the sampler menu. activate Legacy Effects if it's not there.

also a exciter or saturator helps bring up volume wihout increasing energy that much. makes precived loudness greater, without changeing the volume. works by excentuating even harmonics which the ears are more sensative to.

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noticed that in fl 5 and after, i tihnk, that when yuo drop a sound into the sound bar at the bottem it'll default to 100% volume, and not sound weird, as oppose tot he normal channel that drops t to 80%.

it's leaving headroom so the sound can breath. too loud and it clips, thats it game over. sounds like SHIT. unlike analog, it clips it's done, not it clips adn it gets "warm".



yea clipper or limiter as there based of of them. brickwall limiters. don't let the level get into clip. if it's not loud enough it's probably just your song, and it's eathier turned down a bit, and entirly done on computer, giving it a more sallow, hollow, strile, cold sound. and lacking ccertin umph, and warmth.

if it's not loud enough, just comapre it to other songs. maybe it's just genuinely loud. cmopare what would make it sound more fuller, what general range, low deep, or hihs or hig mids or low mids. try to find an insturment or ntoes that would better suit that range at that part fo teh song. maybe bring a piano up a n octave could help fill it up more.

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I never had similar probles Big Grin

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i have it too sometimes when doing that.

its because fruity renders it too quiet , stopid thang is it.

nothing to do just eq it or compress...
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ya know i keep browsing this topic... and i dont undesrtand where you guys are getting that FL renders things quietly... its volume level is not the issue but its sound quality...

a good thing to do is to render a wav, load it up in wav lab, apply a master eq with tiny compression, and a mix saturator...

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a good thing to do is to render a wav, load it up in wav lab, apply a master eq with tiny compression, and a mix saturator...

No compressor. A limiter!

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a good thing to do is to render a wav, load it up in wav lab, apply a master eq with tiny compression, and a mix saturator...

No compressor. A limiter!



there are a billion ways of doing it Tongue all trial and error really...

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a good thing to do is to render a wav, load it up in wav lab, apply a master eq with tiny compression, and a mix saturator...

No compressor. A limiter!

there are a billion ways of doing it Tongue all trial and error really...

I don't agree. I always do a limiter coz the result always sounds better than when I use a compressor. Less squashed, more boost.

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okay there seems to be many opinions on this but i have the same thing in FL since day one infact.

the mp3 alwayz sounds like it has lessimpact.

nowadays i get round this by firstly produce the track with rendering in mind meaning making elemnts louder etc than sounds right so that when you export it will sound better

and on my soundcard mixer setting i move the bass and treble slider down a few notches so that when in FL the levels will sound more punchy when exporting

anywayz this is probably a bad way around the problem

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