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so, whats with the recent overrating ?

do you guys even read what it says in the boxes before you click ?

it certainly defeats the point. I can see a lot of friendly voting and bandwagon jumping

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yeah i noticed every other track on the site seems to be getting 90+ recently.

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yeah i get a bit mift with it sometimes !! but it dont seem to like it at the mo ???

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yeah i get a bit mift with it sometimes !! but it dont seem to like it at the mo ???

1 week ten number 1s lol
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infact come to think of it 1 week i had a track that was clippin to fuck and i mean it was buggered totally
that score 95 percent yeat a track with a good mix gets like 70 strange ay?
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so, whats with the recent overrating ?

do you guys even read what it says in the boxes before you click ?

it certainly defeats the point. I can see a lot of friendly voting and bandwagon jumping


Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with you here. Yes, there are some strong votes, but then again, there's some strong tunes there. Seems like you're making assumptions about the scores and the way people vote? At the time of writing, here's the most recent list of scores...

95.9%
88.2%
84.7%
43.1%
55.6%
92.7%
58.3%
94.3%
55.3%

Those scores seem pretty normal and fair to me. Confused

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you could be right, to be fair a lot of the tunes sent to the site do sound good nowadays.

its the thing, when I click on the music page, boom a lot of super rated tunes

IMO all of them need a -15% to the overall vote

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is it down to there being less votes on a lot of tunes? some tunes only get like 4/5 votes whereas others get 10+, evens out the vote more.....does seem to be a lot of 95.7% tunes about tho.....

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lol yeah i noticed that, the other day there were like 4 with 95.7%

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ahhh theres 5 now.....

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More voters will even out those high's.

@Cynik: I don't see your name amongst this weeks top voters, so it might be safe to asume that you didn't vote on those "overrated" tracks yet. Please make sure you voted on them and give a "hard but fair" score. If the problem with overrating persists you can always repost your complaint.

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I know this is going to piss people off Tongue

so if a tune is overrated to which I would normally give an overall 7, I vote 2 instead to average it out, is that ok?

I rarely use the voting, but you can assume the scores I'd give judging by the reviews

and to everyone who might get it wrong, I do think generally the tunes on the site sound good. its just that the 5 stars is something that was reserved for the REALLY good tunes, and I mean really good.

but now you cant differentiate them as these fives dont really deserve it, theyre mostly fours and threes

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I remember a while back there were like one or two 5 star tunes a month and the top list even included stuff with the 4 and 4 and a half. There definitively is a value decline…

Anyway, stars are nice but they won’t make you improve your production or something. A review counts more! So as long as the reviewing is working, I guess it’s all fine.
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so if a tune is overrated to which I would normally give an overall 7, I vote 2 instead to average it out, is that ok?



I guess a lot of people do so and I was kinda disappointed as I heard that the votes differing strongly from the average will be ignored (even though it’s a good thing).
I didn’t really vote any more since that day actually Shocked
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Anyway, stars are nice but they won’t make you improve your production or something. A review counts more! So as long as the reviewing is working, I guess it’s all fine.


nah thats why I dont mention reviewing at all. reviews are mostly quality, from what I can see Tomos, Battledrone, Dethworm, Ketz etc etc. really give honest and helpful reviews, its why the site is so great in fact. would love to see the voting thing works out though. thechronic put so much hard work into it

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so if a tune is overrated to which I would normally give an overall 7, I vote 2 instead to average it out, is that ok?


Actually, I would say no because this totally destroys the point of the voting system. It's not for you - or any other voter - to say what the overall score should be. The point of the voting system is to provide the producer with an accurate reflection of the opinions of the voters. Otherwise, there would be no point in having a voting system. If you start compensating for what you regard as an inaccurate overall score by deliberately voting down tunes, not only are your scores useless, but very dishonest too.

Obviously, I can't tell you how to vote, it's up to you. But please just concentrate on giving your own objective scores. It's not the responsibility of the voter to deliberately alter the overall scores. For all you know, someone may think your own tunes are scored too highly. Would you really want someone to start deliberately giving you really poor scores in order to bring down the overall score?

I'm not picking on you here cynik, I would say the same to anyone.

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I'm not picking on you here cynik, I would say the same to anyone.


rrright you expect me to believe that? why I put your name as a top reviewer!

lol just kidding Big Grin

anyway, I didnt even think of doing such. its Battledrone who started giving me ideas Angel

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so if a tune is overrated to which I would normally give an overall 7, I vote 2 instead to average it out, is that ok?


Actually, I would say no because this totally destroys the point of the voting system. It's not for you - or any other voter - to say what the overall score should be. The point of the voting system is to provide the producer with an accurate reflection of the opinions of the voters. Otherwise, there would be no point in having a voting system. If you start compensating for what you regard as an inaccurate overall score by deliberately voting down tunes, not only are your scores useless, but very dishonest too.


Good point there man.

Maybe some of the scores are a bit too high atm, but most of the 'overrated' tunes have been voted only a few times, so Im sure they will be 'smoothed' when they get more votes..

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anyway, I didnt even think of doing such. its Battledrone who started giving me ideas Angel


I know what you mean. That pesky little Belgian is always up to no good.

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nah hes ok, tries to help noobs often. gets an occasional slap in the face for being honest but that comes with the trade Tongue

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