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Good point.
I also noticed that when I put some pads in quite extreme stereo they start to sound thin.

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When you use stereo wideners you should always check how it sounds in mono, since some of them have a bad influence on the phase.

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yea, you can get programs that will show you the phase and with like Ozone. you can see it visually. also found some that did it in 3-d but you just need the 2-d box.



looks liek that, if it goex one side top left and the other side bottem right, then if they are merged, the left and right add together, and if there opposite like that, they will cancell out. you want it scattered all ove rthe box.



let's say like that, but usually not so unniform, that's probably with just a simple waveform shape, whatever it is. but that is what it generally looks like.

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I may not be 100% on topic here, but once read that bass was to be kept strictly in the centre of the stereo field as anything else would create too wide a groove in the vinyl and cause all sorts of problems.

I found this very interesting in relation to the trends of our digital age where there really isn't a need to produce with vinyl in mind - cd's, timecode vinyl etc

I can see why you would want the bass sitting squarely in the centre, but I'm not too up on my stereo knowledge and don't know of the ramifications of doing otherwise.

I have actually been waiting to see what, if anything, comes from this. Whether there will be any crazy panning subs flying about the place.

Come to think of it, I don't know why I'm waiting. I'm sitting in front of a DAW most of my spare time. Right! Unless anyone tells me good reasons why I can't, I'll give it a try in my next tune...

Quite excited now actually...

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Panning the bass could cause phasing and thus canceling of frequencies.
The bass can't be aimed (it's not directional, unlike the high end). so there's no use.
Crazy panning is just crazy, not cool. Don't mess with panning throughout the track, it feels unnatural and gets on people's nerves.
Many club soundsystems merge the stereo field more or less to avoid having an instrument almost entirely on 1 end of the room and not on the other.

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with you BD, just had a quick fiddle and yep, shit idea Big Grin

It's annoying as fuck too! Back into the middle we go....
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not entirely on topic, but you mentionned that the drum must be in stereo too. I understand that everything below 100Hz must be kept mono. Let's say I split my bass into 2 channels, one low (<100 Hz), one mid/high ( 300 to whatever). I usually high pass the kick drum at about 100Hz to give room for the bass...

so my question is, shall I keep the kick mono too? You mentionned the drum in your post, meaning drums=mono??

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