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It seems to be a really good DAW, I know some established producers who use it (including the new Hospital guy Echo Inada Tongue ). Going to have to try it out.

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Yeah, because it's not about how creative and technically educated one is... it's about using the right DAW.

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If you think of FL Studio as a crippled horse then that is up to you.
I don't agree though.

This discussion is pretty old (see this thread). Especially since version 9 FL is a full power DAW with everything you need to make good music at your service.

It's more important that you know how to deal with some techincal issues, which will pop up in ANY daw and that you show some creativity which has to come from you and not from the DAW you are using.

I'm looking forward to your first Reaper tune, it will surely set some new standards in quality now that you left the sloppy/shitty/childish FL studio behind you.

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It's more important that you know how to deal with some techincal issues, which will pop up in ANY daw and that you show some creativity which has to come from you and not from the DAW you are using.


gotta agree there drone, at the end of the day, regardless of the DAW, you gotta know how to obtain your results. I only switched to Reaper as my new intel mac wont handle cubase sl3, which i was running on my old g4 powerbook. I had no issues with sl3 at all, loved it, but it crashes and plays up a lot running in Rosetta in the new macs, and i cant justify a new purchase of significance, so reaper was a purely a cashflow kinda decision, and for the way I produce I reckon it will be just fine.

Dont matter what DAW you use.

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Dont matter what DAW you use.


It depends how you work really. If you work with a lot of audio then fl isn't the daw for you, and if you work mainly with midi then reaper's clunky piano roll probably isn't for you either. Although having said that reaper's piano roll has got a lot better, which is more than can be said for fl's audio editing capabilities.
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Dont matter what DAW you use.


It depends how you work really. If you work with a lot of audio then fl isn't the daw for you, and if you work mainly with midi then reaper's clunky piano roll probably isn't for you either. Although having said that reaper's piano roll has got a lot better, which is more than can be said for fl's audio editing capabilities.


hmm i mainly use midi, and see no problem no matter what the DAW. and i think if i mainly used audio there would be no problem either. I mean,be it a midi note controlling a soft synth, or drum sampler, or audio files, they all work on snapping to grid, as in 1/4, 1/8, 1/16ths or whatever, all can be controlled by velocity (or volume) and all can be sent to individual tracks for futther processing, all can be quantised or not, etc etc. to my way of thinking they are basically the same, just depends on how you want to work.

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As far as I'm aware you cant even change the volume of an individual clip (without automation or adding more and more copies of the same sample) in fl because if you change the volume on one it changes the volume of all the clips, the same goes for pitching them up or down, reversing them, etc.. You also can't do really basic things like glue audio clips together, you can only quantize to grid, there's no per item effects, fading objects into each other is a pita, etc, etc.

I've been using fl since version 2 and I'm normally the first to defend it but it's hard to defend it's audio editing capabilities because, quite frankly, it's shit at it.

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As far as I'm aware you cant even change the volume of an individual clip (without automation or adding more and more copies of the same sample) in fl because if you change the volume on one it changes the volume of all the clips, the same goes for pitching them up or down, reversing them, etc.. You also can't do really basic things like glue audio clips together, you can only quantize to grid, there's no per item effects, fading objects into each other is a pita, etc, etc.

I've been using fl since version 2 and I'm normally the first to defend it but it's hard to defend it's audio editing capabilities because, quite frankly, it's shit at it.



Point, but I don't need those things. I never ever work with audioclips, I put everything in a sampler for total control. I work with audio 90% of the time, just very little midi stuff. But I know FL inside out and I don't have to ruin creativity by searching for a way to get things done.
The one thing I hate about most daws is looking at miniature waveforms in the song editor all the time.

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I think most fl users don't work with audio, or use other daws, and that's why they think fl is just as good as the others and that it can do everything they can.

It's probably the reason they think you get more control with midi too. Wink

You can turn the waveforms off in reaper too. This is actually what appeals to me the most about reaper, the fact that you can customise it to your own needs, unlike fl which is gol's vision and if you don't like it you can lump it.
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In fact selig, all you have to do is "Make unique", just like with pattern clips: if you correct something, you correct it everywhere, if you want to make something different, you make unique.

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I believe I covered that when I said without making more and more copies of the same sample. If you work that way you end up with about 2,000 versions of the same kick drum in the audio clips part of the step sequencer.

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Yeah but it's not a difficult process or anything, and FL isn't loading the same sample multiple times either. I think this is more like a choice, rather than one being better than the other. FL works with smaller units that make up a bigger whole, whereas apparently Logic or ableton, or both, have one timeline where every note in fact is a unique unit.

But then again, I don't use FL to sample or something either, that's where I call in cool edit pro.

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TBH how it handles the samples really is irrelevant, it's what you can do with them that counts; and this is where reaper wins hands down. I used to use editors in fl all the time (edison and soundforge) but I have no need to in reaper because I can do just about everything an editor can do in the time line.
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If you think of FL Studio as a crippled horse then that is up to you.
I don't agree though.

This discussion is pretty old (see this thread). Especially since version 9 FL is a full power DAW with everything you need to make good music at your service.

It's more important that you know how to deal with some techincal issues, which will pop up in ANY daw and that you show some creativity which has to come from you and not from the DAW you are using.

I'm looking forward to your first Reaper tune, it will surely set some new standards in quality now that you left the sloppy/shitty/childish FL studio behind you.


There was no need to attack me like that, I never referred to FL as the "crippled horse".

I was just going to try out Reaper to see if it fitted my needs (I don't usually try out DAWs if I think they might suck). Hope you get my point

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holy shit this run on mac os, ha haha, i'm gonna try it, it's boring too bootcamp each time i wanna produce with FL .... Roll Eyes

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