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I have a question - I have an LFO rate based bass patch and the problem is that the beginning of the bassnote (beginning of a note) keeps changing. from low frequency to high. I want to keep the high frequency start only but I dont want the whole sound to change. How can I do that?
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i might be wrong because i dont use subtractor but i think there is an option for legato or retrig again may be wrong but i dont use it
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yup, retrigger is what you need.
It's worth noting though, that if you've set your lfo-rate to let's say 1/8th, and you play 1/16th notes, you'll also have a slightly different lfo-feel. I mean, the lfo keeps the rate at 1/8th, even if you play 1/16th notes.

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It is uber weird, cus I have retrig on, but still the beginning of a note changes in period.

If you mean the light under Legato sign.
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Ive also tried changing envelope sustains and attacks but Im not too knowledged yet to be too confident.
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want my advice use thor hehe
far superior anyway man
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Next time I need a bass, yes. but the sound I made is pretty sick to just throw away.
Besides I am not quite skilled with thor.
Any other ideas?
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Next time I need a bass, yes. but the sound I made is pretty sick to just throw away.
Besides I am not quite skilled with thor.
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no way around this Im afraid. I got a couple of tunes that sound proper only after second or even fourth play. the only way is playing it a number of dummy plays when bouncing

its not just subtractor, it happens on all lfos in reason, because there is no "lfo start position" or something

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why not try to resample the sound then edit the waveform so the lfo starts at the beginnig then load into a sampler and play from there
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I'm not feeling this resampling idea - u can make great experiments n sound, but overall if I want to change some small things not including routing stuff then it's quite exhausting.

thanks anyway!
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one of my first ever questions was with regard to the same problem, i switched to the malstrom, you dont get that problem as much. Im using reason 3 so i aint got thor.
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it happens on all lfos in reason, because there is no "lfo start position" or something


Not all of them.

Thor's LFO have a little button labelled 'key sync' which makes it start each time.

And on the malstrom as long as you don't sync the LFO to tempo it will start each time you hit a key. You just have to try the manually sync it to the right speed.

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yeah I dont use maelstrom that often. interesting that its a problem only when using the sync to tempo way. didnt have any trouble of the kind with thor

nn19 has that issue, not sure about nnxt, didnt use lfo much on that

conclusion - stay away of subtractor!

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conclusion - stay away of subtractor!


yes

Thor all the way

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there's something weird going on with my Subtractors; when I go to load a patch it'll also let me load patches for other instruments... e.g. I can load in a Thor patch on a Subtractor and it'll turn into a Thor... or even a Redrum! WTF.

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I have an LFO rate based bass patch and the problem is that the beginning of the bassnote (beginning of a note) keeps changing. from low frequency to high. I want to keep the high frequency start only but I dont want the whole sound to change. How can I do that?


Not sure if this'll work, but if you're modulating the Filter 1 Freq through the Subtractors LFO, it will.

Hold shift and create an instance of Thor, initialise it.
Flip the rack and route Filter 1 Freq of the Subtractors Modulation Input to Thors CV 1 (Modulation Output).
In the MBR on Thor, route LFO 1 to CV Out1.

That way, you can hold on to the Subtractor sound, but use the LFO of Thor.

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