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cubase is obviously the daw for wide heavy punch sound, but ableton is the most flexible daw to work with midi, bouncing etc...
i was talking to bulletproof from australia, and they mentioned that ableton is a toy, logic and cubase were way to go, so i still decided to keep ableton and route the audio master out to cubase with plasq wormhole;
my question is even though if u start a sample in ableton and then take to cubase for remastering would u still get to apply the cubase sound engine quality to that sample, or you think ableton would degrade the sample, leaving the sound weak...
im really good with manupulating sound,rythm, etc but i just cant get them to under one clear heavy mix, something like in movie background music,,or that heavy spor tracks...
i pretty much know all the theory out there about layering eqing, stereo/mono tricks, but just cant get that mix right, and woundering if its the daw, in this case ableton is not just the right tool for this...
what daw u guys use, and would u use ableton just to get the mix down then remaster it with other more professional daw etc cubase, protools

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live is good, for live performances especially but i wouldnt say it was great as a sequencer, cubase on the other hand (and logic too) are both high-quality professional daw's (daw of choice for many pros). but at the end of the day, a good producer would be able to make a banging track in any daw so it doesn't really matter what daw you use, its how you use it....switching to cubase isn't gonna make your tracks automatically sound great, or everyone would be using cubase then right? try out different daw's, choose one (or two that you could re-wire) and learn it inside out, you'll gain knowledge a lot more knowledge and skill learning one daw to death rather than trying to chase down what the pro's use all the time....

"cubase is obviously the daw for wide heavy punch sound, but ableton is the most flexible daw to work with midi, bouncing etc..."

not sure i agree with that, cubase has good midi options, as does pro tools. (better in cubase i think)....and wide, heavy punch isn't created by the daw you use.........its how you use it and how you process the sounds individually and overall.

p.s. spor use fl studio Big Grin

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Im sorry but.........

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cubase is obviously the daw for wide heavy punch sound


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they mentioned that ableton is a toy, logic and cubase were way to go


are two of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard.

Like sephiroth said, Spor use FL, as does Nightwalker and both have a heavy sound

Logistics and commix both use reason and they too get a good sound.

Technicolour who posts on Dnba had just been signed to technique recordings and he uses reason.

So really what im trying to say is its not the DAW the man uses its the man behind the DAW Wink

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Spor use FL, as does Nightwalker and both have a heavy sound




i did not know that about nightwalker, quite like him, fair play.... Drummer

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If you can't get your mix right it's not the DAW's fault Wink

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two of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard.


C'mon now Ghosty don't hold back, say what you really feel. Big Grin

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two of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard.


C'mon now Ghosty don't hold back, say what you really feel. Big Grin


Opps, maybe i was a bit upfront on that.

Just i get annoyed when i see these types of statements, because the sooner people start to forget about what plug-ins and daw they got the sooner they will write better music and dont let "need the newest software" worries hold them back.

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actually i switched to cubase for good...powerfull stuff man, and yeah there is a huge audio quality differencee between ableton, also ableton introduces latency issues,when bouncing etc,etc
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quote:
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two of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard.


C'mon now Ghosty don't hold back, say what you really feel. Big Grin


Opps, maybe i was a bit upfront on that.

Just i get annoyed when i see these types of statements, because the sooner people start to forget about what plug-ins and daw they got the sooner they will write better music and dont let "need the newest software" worries hold them back.


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What's a plug-IN !?

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